[Users] MHD Info

[Allen Gabrielle]

I think the MHD plan is being discussed in emails but Scott also raised the issue of citations for the toolkit. We've been discussing different ideas for this and haven't come up with a good solution yet. For the whole toolkit we have the web page, and also plan to soon write a paper authored by all the contributors (http://einsteintoolkit.org/credits ... please write to me or the maintainers list if you think your name is missing, this list basically comes from the listed authors in the READMEs of the involved thorns) which could be cited. But we'ld also like suggestions of how to recommend the citation of different components as Scott alludes to in his mail (e.g. could add a web page listing a publication for each thorn and paper authors just choose what is appropriate?). 

Obviously, we want to find some recommendation that properly credits those who have made intellectual contributions to the toolkit in designing the algorithms and software implementations so that people are encouraged to contribute, but it also needs to be practical and something that the general community finds fair and reasonable. 

Any suggestions on this are very welcome!

Also, we're hoping to "release" the toolkit very soon once we resolve a few more failing testsuites, and would encourage anyone on this maillist who is not listed on the members page at http://einsteintoolkit.org/about/members/ to sign up at the link on that page so when we announce it we have a good set of members listed to hopefully encourage others to take part. 

Thanks

Gabrielle





On Jun 7, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Scott Noble wrote:

> 
> Hello Users,
> 
>    On the telecon today we discussed briefly about plans for implementing
> MHD in GRHydro of the ET.  We did not discuss our science goals for the
> ET collaboration regarding MHD, but RIT believes this an important topic
> to consider as we should all be driven by science achievements.  Just as
> we have made plans for our first hydro-related science projects that we intend to
> publish together as a collaboration, we should also have a "magnetized" set of
> projects on which we all agree to collaborate.
> 
> Now, regarding details of the development:  Christian showed interest
> in implementing the magnetized version of Con2Prim.c.   Scott proposed using
> HARM3D (a three-dimensional MHD code written for "arbitrary" time-independent spacetimes)
> 
> Here, I'll list a few papers on my GRMHD code called HARM3D  and online, GPL-licensed
> con2prim code.
> 
> 
> 2D "HARM" is described by:
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003ApJ...589..444G
> 
> HARM can be downloaded here:
> http://rainman.astro.illinois.edu/codelib/codes/harm/harm.tgz
> 
> and it's "con2prim" routine here which we call "pvs_grmhd":
> http://rainman.astro.illinois.edu/codelib/codes/pvs_grmhd/pvs_grmhd.tgz
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006ApJ...641..626N
> 
> I would recommend using my 3D version "HARM3D", which is described here:
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009ApJ...692..411N
> 
> HARM3D uses the basic algorithms as HARM, but adds a third spatial dimension,
> higher-order reconstruction and constrained transport methods (parabolic interpolators),
> and a more sophisticated recovery procedure when con2prim fails.  It uses a slightly
> different formulation for the conserved variables, but it should be easy translate
> it into the Valencia formulation.
> 
> I have not made HARM3D freely available on the web yet, but I am willing to donate
> routines from it for open distribution through ET.   The procedure we (at RIT) plan
> to follow is that a routine from HARM3D will be made compatible with ET, we will
> verify it functions properly, and then we will submit it to the development branch. 
> 
> Aspects of the MHD code that---I think---can be easily "translated" to the GRHydro
> framework are:
> 
> 1) con2prim
> 2) approximate Riemann solution for the HLL
> 3) constrained transport (with some labor to be spent adding support in GRHydro for
>    additional flux functions)
> 4) recovery procedure (may require more effort)
> 
> One aspect that the maintainers may wish to consider is that the license for the "pvs_grmhd"
> asks users to cite two papers when one publishing results derived from it.  Would this
> be agreeable with the collaboration?
> 
> And, if we end up using these routines from HARM3D, I, too, would appreciate citation,
> but acknowledge that I can't demand it as I'm donating it ala GPL.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>          Scott Noble
> 
>             &
> 
>           The RIT Team
> 
> 
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