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<p>So the question is, what do we do about the website? We don't
have the time, person-power, or budget to maintain it. At present,
the website is full of things that are horribly out of date and
likely does more harm than good for anyone reading it.</p>
<p>We could make a website that's just a few well-chosen pages with
a similar template to the ETK.</p>
<p>--Steve<br>
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<div class="">On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:47 AM Roland Haas
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I notice that this topic has been mentioned in the notes
on the<br class="">
Einstein Toolkit mailing list, but has not been announced
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of its own), nor has it been mentioned on the Cactus
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">I understand that most of the
active development these days is<br class="">
happening on the context of the Einstein Toolkit, and that
maintaining<br class="">
the <a href="http://cactuscode.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">cactuscode.org</a> domain web
server seems like a burden, but Cactus<br class="">
is usable by itself, and publicly stating that Cactus is
subsumed by<br class="">
the Einstein Toolkit greatly reduces the impact of the
Toolkit on the<br class="">
computational science side. This probably won't affect
physics<br class="">
funding, but this will make it more difficult to obtain
funding from<br class="">
non-astrophysics sources. For example, CISE might ask why
they should<br class="">
fund an astrophysics-only project where the maintainers
decided<br class="">
deliberately to restrict the target audience of their
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<div>I agree. For some of the non-NR projects I am now working
on, I feel like I'm constantly missing and reinventing things
that Cactus provides. Some of these projects might benefit
from being Cactus thorns. Already, selling Cactus to people
might be a little difficult, due to the learning curve and the
extra "baggage" that you need to learn. This wouldn't be
helped by Cactus being perceived as "a relativity code".</div>
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