<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br clear="all"></div><div>Olá,</div><div><br></div><div>vou ficar atento quinta feira da semana que vem se houver outra, porque preciso de ajuda</div><div><br></div><div>Obrigado</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Atenciosamente,<br></div><div>CV Lattes: <a href="http://lattes.cnpq.br/3059108786221521" target="_blank">http://lattes.cnpq.br/3059108786221521</a><br></div><div>CV <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valdir-vitalino" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/valdir-vitalino</a></div><div><b style="background-color:rgb(207,226,243)"><font color="#000000">+55 11 98923-1559 </font> Telefone Móvel </b><font color="#000000"><b style="background-color:rgb(207,226,243)"> / WhatsApp</b></font></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2025 às 11:44, Roland Haas <<a href="mailto:rhaas@illinois.edu">rhaas@illinois.edu</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello Valdir Vitalino,<br>
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The regular Einstein Toolkit call is Thursdays, 9am US Central time.<br>
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Yours,<br>
Roland<br>
<br>
> Olá,<br>
> <br>
> Hoje haverá reunião?<br>
> Caso sim, que horas?<br>
> Haverá pessoas que também falam idioma português.<br>
> <br>
> Valdir Vitalino<br>
> +55 11 98923-1559<br>
> <br>
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> Em ter., 11 de fev. de 2025 15:00, <<a href="mailto:users-request@einsteintoolkit.org" target="_blank">users-request@einsteintoolkit.org</a>><br>
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> > 2. Re: installation of ET on a cluster (IOSIF PANAGIOTIS)<br>
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> > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:18:02 -0600<br>
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> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:02:36 +0000<br>
> > From: IOSIF PANAGIOTIS <<a href="mailto:PANAGIOTIS.IOSIF@units.it" target="_blank">PANAGIOTIS.IOSIF@units.it</a>><br>
> > To: Roland Haas <<a href="mailto:rhaas@illinois.edu" target="_blank">rhaas@illinois.edu</a>><br>
> > Cc: "<a href="mailto:users@einsteintoolkit.org" target="_blank">users@einsteintoolkit.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:users@einsteintoolkit.org" target="_blank">users@einsteintoolkit.org</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Users] installation of ET on a cluster<br>
> > Message-ID:<br>
> > <<br>
> > <a href="mailto:GV1P250MB08577CB34D2E4C4D4AAFBE3FF9FD2@GV1P250MB0857.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM" target="_blank">GV1P250MB08577CB34D2E4C4D4AAFBE3FF9FD2@GV1P250MB0857.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM</a> <br>
> > > <br>
> ><br>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
> ><br>
> > Dear Roland,<br>
> ><br>
> > thank you for gathering these links, they are indeed useful to point me in<br>
> > the right direction.<br>
> ><br>
> > I also found this seminar talk by Erik Schnetter on using Spack to install<br>
> > the ET dependencies.<br>
> > I also copy it in this thread, so that it is grouped with the other<br>
> > resources you gathered:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_05_19/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTa0Re0vH$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_05_19/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTa0Re0vH$</a> <br>
> ><br>
> > I will work my way through this material and let you know if I encounter<br>
> > other problems.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> > Panagiotis<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ________________________________<br>
> > From: Roland Haas<br>
> > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 6:41 PM<br>
> > To: IOSIF PANAGIOTIS<br>
> > Cc: <a href="mailto:users@einsteintoolkit.org" target="_blank">users@einsteintoolkit.org</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Users] installation of ET on a cluster<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello Panagiotis,<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you for your inquiry.<br>
> ><br>
> > This may help:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_02_24/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTfy7f5Yi$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_02_24/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTfy7f5Yi$</a> <br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/8dnOfQIk32c?feature=shared__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTV0NylUm$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/8dnOfQIk32c?feature=shared__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTV0NylUm$</a> <br>
> ><br>
> > whose slides are:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/rhaas80/2024_LSU/blob/main/CactusBuildSytemTour.ipynb__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTQJft5xj$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/rhaas80/2024_LSU/blob/main/CactusBuildSytemTour.ipynb__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTQJft5xj$</a> <br>
> ><br>
> > There's also some advanced simulation factory docs here:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Configuring_a_new_machine__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTXzN1ILP$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Configuring_a_new_machine__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTXzN1ILP$</a> <br>
> ><br>
> > (linked on<br>
> > <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Main_Page*Documentation__;Iw!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTd7DLoSm$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Main_Page*Documentation__;Iw!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTd7DLoSm$</a> )<br>
> > <br>
> > > The CactusTutorial jupyter notebook for new users does not tackle<br>
> > > this scenario in detail. Understandably, it would be unrealistic to<br>
> > > provide generic instructions that cover all cluster configurations.<br>
> > > How about guidelines that cover some common scenarios though? (e.g. a<br>
> > > cluster that organizes libraries and packages as modules and also<br>
> > > uses the Spack manager) <br>
> ><br>
> > See above. Spack is tricky and often does not work out of the box<br>
> > unless one really builds everything from scratch. Some of the ET users<br>
> > have experience and they may be able to provide help.<br>
> > <br>
> > > Is there some documentation that gives basic guidelines as to how<br>
> > > setup ET on a cluster aimed at a user profile that has (obviously) no<br>
> > > previous experience with ET, simfactory etc and (quite possibly) also<br>
> > > limited experience on how HPC clusters are setup, how packages are<br>
> > > installed etc? <br>
> ><br>
> > The recording of the seminar (and the slides therein) tries to do that.<br>
> > I would give it a try.<br>
> > <br>
> > > This request stems from the fact that I have been discovering<br>
> > > little-by-little and through trial-and-error that e.g. running<br>
> > > `./simfactory/bin/sim setup-silent` as outlined in the<br>
> > > CactusTutorial, makes no sense for the case of a cluster. In my<br>
> > > opinion, and if I may offer a suggestion, it would be a good idea to<br>
> > > underline this distinction in a future revision of the tutorial. <br>
> ><br>
> > Unfortunately each cluster is different and often one needs specific<br>
> > detailed workarounds. A lot of that unfortuntely comes down to<br>
> > experience.<br>
> > <br>
> > ><br>
> > > Furthermore, another crucial step to setup ET on a cluster seems to<br>
> > > be that the user must create "manually" their respective<br>
> > > "<my_cluster>.cfg" and "<my_cluster>.ini" files and possibly the<br>
> > > corresponding run and submit scripts. Could you confirm that this is<br>
> > > indeed the case? What is the recommended course of action to do this?<br>
> > > Maybe one should start by copying a sample ".cfg" file and amend it<br>
> > > with information found from their cluster's technical documentation? <br>
> ><br>
> > I'd start with an existing cluster that uses the same compiler / queuing<br>
> > system. Queueing system these days should always be SLURM and one can<br>
> > then try and see if the cluster supports the GNU compilers which should<br>
> > make things easy.<br>
> ><br>
> > The only libraries that one really needs from the cluster are MPI.<br>
> > Everything else can be built by the EinsteinToolkit if needed (by<br>
> > setting the various FOO_DIR variable to the string BUILD).<br>
> > <br>
> > > I can follow up with more specific questions about problems I<br>
> > > encountered during my so far unsuccessful attempts to install ET on a<br>
> > > cluster, but to avoid people having to repeat explanations already<br>
> > > given in the past, I would like first to make sure that I am not<br>
> > > missing some source of information/documentation already available. <br>
> ><br>
> > There is no real good docs unfortunately. Even the ones that I had<br>
> > linked above are (were, they are now) not collected in a single place.<br>
> > <br>
> > > Also, in the long shot that someone has already installed ET on one<br>
> > > of the CINECA clusters in Italy (I am trying to install ET on the<br>
> > > Leonardo cluster), I would be grateful if you could share your<br>
> > > insights! <br>
> ><br>
> > Bruno Giacommazzo installed the ET on some of the CINECA clusters in the<br>
> > past. I would try and reach out to him and his group at Milan. The<br>
> > newest machine still in simfactory is marconiA3 which however is<br>
> > already quite old. He also is subscribed to this mailing list.<br>
> ><br>
> > Yours,<br>
> > Roland<br>
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