[ET Trac] [Einstein Toolkit] #2101: Add Lean_public and Proca thorns to the ET
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#2101: Add Lean_public and Proca thorns to the ET
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Reporter: miguel.zilhao.nogueira@… | Owner: Steven R. Brandt
Type: enhancement | Status: assigned
Priority: major | Milestone: ET_2018_08
Component: EinsteinToolkit thorn | Version: development version
Resolution: | Keywords: Lean_public
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Comment (by miguel.zilhao.nogueira):
Replying to [comment:4 Peter Diener]:
many thanks for your input and comments! below we try to address your
points.
> Questions, comments and recommendations regarding Proca overall:
>
> There are two tests in ProcaEvolve of which one uses Lean and the other
ML_BSSN
> while otherwise appear to be the same. Whereas the Ai and Ei variables
agree
> quite well, there seems to be significant differences between Aphi and
Zeta.
> Is this expected? If so, why?
on my machine Aphi gives very similar values for the evolutions with Lean
and
ML_BSSN; Zeta does appear a bit different, but this quantity is the
constraint
damping variable and has no physical meaning, so this may just be due to
the different ways the gauge is handled in Lean in ML_BSSN...
> In ProcaEvolve there is another parameter file in the test directory
> (ML_BSSN_Aphi_mu0.4_c100.1_r06_S0.0_4th.par) that does not have any
associated
> output. If this was meant to be a test, output should be provided.
Otherwise
> it should be moved to the example parameter file directory.
it has been moved to the par folder, thanks.
> NPScalars_Proca, Proca_simpleID and TwoPunctures_KerrProca have no tests
> of their own. Proca_simpleID is tested by the tests in ProcaEvolve, but
> NPScalars_Proca and TwoPunctures_KerrProca should definitely be covered
by
> tests. You may also consider making a standalone test for
Proca_simpleID.
added respective tests.
> None of the thorns in the Proca arrangement have any documentation of
their
> own. As there is a paper describing the formulation, it is okay to refer
to the
> paper, but there should be some description of the variables and
parameters
> used in the code and how they relate to the physics and equations.
we've added to the ProcaBase interface.ccl file some more description,
matching
the variables with the notation used in the first paper. once we have the
new
paper out this can also be updated to reflect the notation therein, if
needed. we've also added a simple documentation.tex to ProcaEvolve and
TwoPunctures_KerrProca
> It would be nice if all he parameter files for the runs in the paper
could be
> made available as examples of how to use the thorn. Currently there are
only
> two example parameter files available and it's not immediately clear if
they
> have been used for the paper. There could be a comment at the top of the
> parameterfiles indicating what section and/or figure in the paper they
were
> used for.
we've added this comment in one of the parfiles. the other two were used
for the
runs in the upcoming paper; we can add the information as well once the
paper is
published.
> Questions, comments and recommendations specifically to ProcaBase:
>
> In parameter.ccl the comment to the value of the parameter mu says:
> "any non-negative number". However, the range allows for zero and in
fact the
> default value is zero. Either the comment should be changed or the range
and
> default value should be changed.
zero is indeed allowed, this is what we meant with "non-negative". does it
not
imply that zero is permissible?
> Are the integer power for the fall off rate for the outgoing boundary
> conditions for the Proca variables not known? Or can they be different
> for different physical systems? If they are known constants, should they
> be parameters at all? Also could the power be different for different
> components of the E and A vectors. If not, there's no need to make these
> vector parameters.
i think there have not been any rigorous studies of the boundary
conditions of
these systems... the default values we are setting are what we expect
makes more
sense from a naive analysis, but in principle a user may wish to
experiment with
other values, so we decided to allow for that option.
> I propose to give the file (src/Basegrid.F90) with the symmetry
registering
> routine a more descriptive name.
it has been renamed to Proca_Symmetries.F90
> It would be nice to have a proper (but short) thorn documentation to
relate
> the variables with the paper.
would the description introduced to the interface.ccl under ProcaBase
suffice?
if not, we can certainly add more information if something is not clear...
> Questions, comments and recommendations specifically to Proca_simpleID:
>
> The Simple Initial Data solution in the paper is a spherical symmetric
> solution. The parameters for Proca_simpleID on the other hand seem to
> allow for a superposition of 2 such solutions separated by a non-zero
> distance. As the parameter for the separation can not be zero (imposed
by
> the parameter range) the initial data thorn will thus never produce
initial
> data that is spherically symmetric around the origin of the cactus grid.
> Would it make sense for the range of par_b to include zero in order to
> allow for that. This is something worth explaining in the (missing)
> documentation.
this initial data thorn actually allows for more configurations than the
Simple
Initial Data one of the paper. by allowing a superposition of 2 solutions,
we
can also construct the initial data for the head-on collision of two
charged
black holes with equal charge-to-mass ratios (as in
https://arxiv.org/abs/1205.1063).
however, due to how the initial data is constructed, the parameter par_b
cannot
be exactly zero, and we therefore have excluded that option in the
parameter
range. choosing a very small value for it (like the default choice)
typically
works very well at producing spherically symmetric data.
we have added this information to a README file in this thorn.
> Questions, comments and recommendations specifically to
TwoPunctures_KerrProca:
>
> It looks like the code implements initial data with a Y_11 angular
dependence
> in addition to Y_00 and Y_10 mentioned in the paper. This should be in
the
> documentation.
this is correct. the initial data with the Y_11 mode is something that
will be
featured in the upcoming paper. we've added this note in the
documentation.
> There's a comment in Equations.c that some of the equations were copied
from
> Mathematica. Could that mathematica notebook be made available in the
thorn
> as well?
we have no problem with it being made available, we just need to clean up
the
notebook a bit.
> In the future it might be worth considering some way of merging this
back
> into the original TwoPunctures, so we don't have multiple thorns
implementing
> the same spectral solver infrastructure.
we considered this, but since the equations to be solved changed
considerably,
we thought it'd be cleaner to implement this in a new thorn. we're
certainly
open to the possibility of merging this with the original TwoPunctures if
deemed
possible and useful, though.
> There should be tests for all the different types of angular profiles
for the
> initial data.
the issue here is that we find that these initial data need a significant
number
of spectral collocation points, otherwise the algorithm just doesn't
converge. this makes some configurations very time-consuming, needing
order
~10-15minutes at least to run. this makes them unfeasible for quick
testing... we've added one configuration which runs moderately fast (a
couple of
minutes); we hope this is ok.
> The discussion in the README should be converted into a proper thorn
> documentation.
we have updated the README and added a documentation.tex file with the
notes.
> Questions, comments and recommendations specifically to ProcaEvolve:
>
> Need a thorn documentation to relate variables to the paper and to
explain
> the use of parameters.
we've added a basic documentation.tex mapping the rhs evolution variables
to
their definition in the paper.
> I don't know how much performance is a concern. If only a tiny amount of
time
> is spent in Proca compared to BSSN (or other things) this is obviously
not
> important. However, if the issues with the code, that prevents the
compiler
> from optimizations, makes the code slow enough that the time spent in
Proca is
> comparable to the time spent in BSSN it might be worth it to
fundamentally
> rewrite the code. One of the problems, is the many nested loops over
tensor
> indices. These prevents the compiler from vectorizing most of the RHS
code
> (I checked this by looking at compiler vectorization output from the
Intel
> compiler). As the loop lengths are just 3, the vectorizer deems that
> vectorization will be ineffecient and hence doesn't do it. On modern
CPUs with
> vector lengths of 4 or 8 (in double precision), efficiently using the
vector
> units is really important for good performance. However, this is not an
issue
> (if there really is a problem with performance) that should prevent
inclusion
> in the ET, but just something to think about for later.
we did not run very thorough checks, but from our limited analysis it
seemed
that the BSSN metric evolution code still dominates the runtime, so we
didn't
worry too much about optimizing the Proca evolution. also, one of the
motivations for making this code available was for pedagogical purposes,
so we
thought that having a readable and easy to understand code was preferable.
in
any case, we are certainly open to write it in a more efficient manner if
there
are things being done in an obviously non-optimal way.
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