[Users] Acesso, Reunião

Thu Feb 13 20:47:13 CST 2025

Olá,

vou ficar atento quinta feira da semana que vem se houver outra, porque
preciso de ajuda

Obrigado

Atenciosamente,
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Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2025 às 11:44, Roland Haas <rhaas at illinois.edu>
escreveu:

> Hello Valdir Vitalino,
>
> The regular Einstein Toolkit call is Thursdays, 9am US Central time.
>
> https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Meeting_agenda#Connection_Details
>
> Yours,
> Roland
>
> > Olá,
> >
> > Hoje haverá reunião?
> > Caso sim, que horas?
> > Haverá pessoas que também falam idioma português.
> >
> > Valdir Vitalino
> > +55 11 98923-1559
> >
> >
> > Em ter., 11 de fev. de 2025 15:00, <users-request at einsteintoolkit.org>
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> > > Today's Topics:
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> > >    1. Agenda for Thursday's Meeting (rhaas at illinois.edu)
> > >    2. Re: installation of ET on a cluster (IOSIF PANAGIOTIS)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:18:02 -0600
> > > From: rhaas at illinois.edu
> > > To: users at einsteintoolkit.org
> > > Subject: [Users] Agenda for Thursday's Meeting
> > > Message-ID: <E1thbAI-00000001oBn-0FQr at ekohaes8.ncsa.illinois.edu>
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> > > Please update the Wiki with agenda items for Thursday's meeting.
> Thanks!
> > >
> > >
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:02:36 +0000
> > > From: IOSIF PANAGIOTIS <PANAGIOTIS.IOSIF at units.it>
> > > To: Roland Haas <rhaas at illinois.edu>
> > > Cc: "users at einsteintoolkit.org" <users at einsteintoolkit.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] installation of ET on a cluster
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > >
> GV1P250MB08577CB34D2E4C4D4AAFBE3FF9FD2 at GV1P250MB0857.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
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> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Dear Roland,
> > >
> > > thank you for gathering these links, they are indeed useful to point
> me in
> > > the right direction.
> > >
> > > I also found this seminar talk by Erik Schnetter on using Spack to
> install
> > > the ET dependencies.
> > > I also copy it in this thread, so that it is grouped with the other
> > > resources you gathered:
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_05_19/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTa0Re0vH$
> > >
> > > I will work my way through this material and let you know if I
> encounter
> > > other problems.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Panagiotis
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Roland Haas
> > > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 6:41 PM
> > > To: IOSIF PANAGIOTIS
> > > Cc: users at einsteintoolkit.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] installation of ET on a cluster
> > >
> > > Hello Panagiotis,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your inquiry.
> > >
> > > This may help:
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://einsteintoolkit.org/seminars/2022_02_24/index.html__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTfy7f5Yi$
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/8dnOfQIk32c?feature=shared__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTV0NylUm$
> > >
> > > whose slides are:
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/rhaas80/2024_LSU/blob/main/CactusBuildSytemTour.ipynb__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTQJft5xj$
> > >
> > > There's also some advanced simulation factory docs here:
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Configuring_a_new_machine__;!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTXzN1ILP$
> > >
> > > (linked on
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.einsteintoolkit.org/et-docs/Main_Page*Documentation__;Iw!!DZ3fjg!7Iv7hML_ZfbbjFqmNc0dHONYZc0MLdmuQjZzmX2HDR7k5w0fdXuMomMKPN85Uyr7reuHeMv9HJk5AASEWN50KInSTd7DLoSm$
> )
> > >
> > > > The CactusTutorial jupyter notebook for new users does not tackle
> > > > this scenario in detail. Understandably, it would be unrealistic to
> > > > provide generic instructions that cover all cluster configurations.
> > > > How about guidelines that cover some common scenarios though? (e.g. a
> > > > cluster that organizes libraries and packages as modules and also
> > > > uses the Spack manager)
> > >
> > > See above. Spack is tricky and often does not work out of the box
> > > unless one really builds everything from scratch. Some of the ET users
> > > have experience and they may be able to provide help.
> > >
> > > > Is there some documentation that gives basic guidelines as to how
> > > > setup ET on a cluster aimed at a user profile that has (obviously) no
> > > > previous experience with ET, simfactory etc and (quite possibly) also
> > > > limited experience on how HPC clusters are setup, how packages are
> > > > installed etc?
> > >
> > > The recording of the seminar (and the slides therein) tries to do that.
> > > I would give it a try.
> > >
> > > > This request stems from the fact that I have been discovering
> > > > little-by-little and through trial-and-error that e.g. running
> > > > `./simfactory/bin/sim setup-silent` as outlined in the
> > > > CactusTutorial,  makes no sense for the case of a cluster. In my
> > > > opinion, and if I may offer a suggestion, it would be a good idea to
> > > > underline this distinction in a future revision of the tutorial.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately each cluster is different and often one needs specific
> > > detailed workarounds. A lot of that unfortuntely comes down to
> > > experience.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore, another crucial step to setup ET on a cluster seems to
> > > > be that the user must create "manually" their respective
> > > > "<my_cluster>.cfg" and "<my_cluster>.ini" files and possibly the
> > > > corresponding run and submit scripts. Could you confirm that this is
> > > > indeed the case? What is the recommended course of action to do this?
> > > > Maybe one should start by copying a sample ".cfg" file and amend it
> > > > with information found from their cluster's technical
> documentation?
> > >
> > > I'd start with an existing cluster that uses the same compiler /
> queuing
> > > system. Queueing system these days should always be SLURM and one can
> > > then try and see if the cluster supports the GNU compilers which should
> > > make things easy.
> > >
> > > The only libraries that one really needs from the cluster are MPI.
> > > Everything else can be built by the EinsteinToolkit if needed (by
> > > setting the various FOO_DIR variable to the string BUILD).
> > >
> > > > I can follow up with more specific questions about problems I
> > > > encountered during my so far unsuccessful attempts to install ET on a
> > > > cluster, but to avoid people having to repeat explanations already
> > > > given in the past, I would like first to make sure that I am not
> > > > missing some source of information/documentation already available.
> > >
> > > There is no real good docs unfortunately. Even the ones that I had
> > > linked above are (were, they are now) not collected in a single place.
> > >
> > > > Also, in the long shot that someone has already installed ET on one
> > > > of the CINECA clusters in Italy (I am trying to install ET on the
> > > > Leonardo cluster), I would be grateful if you could share your
> > > > insights!
> > >
> > > Bruno Giacommazzo installed the ET on some of the CINECA clusters in
> the
> > > past. I would try and reach out to him and his group at Milan. The
> > > newest machine still in simfactory is marconiA3 which however is
> > > already quite old. He also is subscribed to this mailing list.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > Roland
> > >
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