[Users] meeting minutes for 2020-02-06

[Steven R. Brandt]

So the question is, what do we do about the website? We don't have the 
time, person-power, or budget to maintain it. At present, the website is 
full of things that are horribly out of date and likely does more harm 
than good for anyone reading it.

We could make a website that's just a few well-chosen pages with a 
similar template to the ETK.

--Steve

On 2/7/2020 6:29 AM, Ian Hinder wrote:
>
>
>> On 6 Feb 2020, at 16:03, Erik Schnetter <schnetter at cct.lsu.edu 
>> <mailto:schnetter at cct.lsu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:47 AM Roland Haas <rhaas at illinois.edu 
>> <mailto:rhaas at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> * Are we ready to turn off CactusCode.org <http://CactusCode.org>?
>>> ** all in favor for moving
>>
>> I notice that this topic has been mentioned in the notes on the
>> Einstein Toolkit mailing list, but has not been announced (in an email
>> of its own), nor has it been mentioned on the Cactus mailing lists at
>> all.
>> I understand that most of the active development these days is
>> happening on the context of the Einstein Toolkit, and that maintaining
>> the cactuscode.org <http://cactuscode.org> domain web server seems 
>> like a burden, but Cactus
>> is usable by itself, and publicly stating that Cactus is subsumed by
>> the Einstein Toolkit greatly reduces the impact of the Toolkit on the
>> computational science side. This probably won't affect physics
>> funding, but this will make it more difficult to obtain funding from
>> non-astrophysics sources. For example, CISE might ask why they should
>> fund an astrophysics-only project where the maintainers decided
>> deliberately to restrict the target audience of their software.
>
> I agree.  For some of the non-NR projects I am now working on, I feel 
> like I'm constantly missing and reinventing things that Cactus 
> provides.  Some of these projects might benefit from being Cactus 
> thorns.  Already, selling Cactus to people might be a little 
> difficult, due to the learning curve and the extra "baggage" that you 
> need to learn.  This wouldn't be helped by Cactus being perceived as 
> "a relativity code".
>
> -- 
> Ian**Hinder
> Research Software Engineer
> University of Manchester, UK
>
>
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