Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" http://serviastro.am.ub.edu/twiki/bin/view/ServiAstro/UniversFosc and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve - update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups. - that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
Hi Helvi:
The NCSA Gravity Group has been working on this front for some time now.
We have ongoing collaborations with Ian Hinder at the AEI in the context of binary black hole simulations, and now with other European colleagues working on the use of GRHydro for matter simulations. We are participating actively within LIGO developing code to convert cactus simulations into the format requested by LIGO to use numerical relativity simulations, and so on and so forth…
In terms of eye candy for tax payers, feel free to use the following videos. All of them advertise the use of the ET for the scientific visualizations
Neutron star discovery (advertised by LIGO in the press release on ligo.orghttp://ligo.org)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13xfdhJGqrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eaP7IGRBEY&t=9s
Discovery of GW170814 (advertised by LIGO in the press release on ligo.orghttp://ligo.org)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ySSvOVZ2VL4
Third BBH merger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWK26jklDg&t=1s
BTW: are you part of the LSC/Virgo?
Thanks
Eliu
On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:38 AM, helvi witek <hwitek@icc.ub.edumailto:hwitek@icc.ub.edu> wrote:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__serviastro.am.ub.edu_twiki_bin_view_ServiAstro_UniversFosc&d=DwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=SSRVjDlLLsQaEiZy7iM8BPn1ElYHYzXg46PmKPii77k&m=VYIJofUgfNE97s57tFHay0qGLW-imGjvAX9zO-fMjAg&s=BENUZJgSzAtjc5-cl49sPMs6-w51dhnUKLNyqet2d6Y&e= and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve - update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups. - that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
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Am 18. Oktober 2017 12:38:05 MESZ schrieb helvi witek hwitek@icc.ub.edu:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" http://serviastro.am.ub.edu/twiki/bin/view/ServiAstro/UniversFosc and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve
- update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation
of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups.
- that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those
animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
Speaking of completely open (repeatable) binary neutron star merger simulations and the Einstein toolkit: https://youtu.be/GKEnayUC_ns
Frank
Hi Eliu, Frank,
thanks a lot for your feedback. This is certainly very helpful. I think it would be nice to have them linked to the website gallery at some point, as eye-catcher for people who are not working within the "traditional" NumRel groups.
@Eliu: no, I am not a part of LSC/Virgo.
cheers, Helvi
On 2017-10-18 18:56, Frank Löffler wrote:
Am 18. Oktober 2017 12:38:05 MESZ schrieb helvi witek hwitek@icc.ub.edu:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" [1] and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve
- update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation
of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups.
- that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those
animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
Speaking of completely open (repeatable) binary neutron star merger simulations and the Einstein toolkit: https://youtu.be/GKEnayUC_ns [2]
Frank
Links:
[1] http://serviastro.am.ub.edu/twiki/bin/view/ServiAstro/UniversFosc [2] https://youtu.be/GKEnayUC_ns
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Hi Hevli,
let me add, as an example of NS merger simulations done with the ET, our (Princeton/Parma/Frankfurt groups) simulations with the WhiskyTHC code, which includes microphysical nuclear EOS and neutrinos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhS77N0tyEA
Ref. https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.02426
Cheers,
David
On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:38 AM, helvi witek hwitek@icc.ub.edu wrote:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve
- update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups.
- that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
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Dear all,
regarding the outreach and visibility topic I have one suggestion concerning the hurdles of getting started with the Einstein Toolkit. Already two times this year I met people who were rather interested in the ET but did not know how to get started.
The initial hurdle of starting with the ET could be lowered, if one offered for example the contact to a "starting buddy" who agrees to Skype for example 2 times 30 minutes with somebody who wants to get started and provides appropriate slides/scripts/examples/tasks to kick off - also, this might take away the fear to contact the community with further questions. Alternatively, in a lighter and more standardized version of this, one could offer a monthly Hangout giving a "How to get started" presentation and leaving room for Q&A. In any case, I would be on board for any of these points.
For tonight my very best from Valencia
Jens Mahlmann
On 10/18/2017 07:37 PM, David Radice wrote:
Hi Hevli,
let me add, as an example of NS merger simulations done with the ET, our (Princeton/Parma/Frankfurt groups) simulations with the WhiskyTHC code, which includes microphysical nuclear EOS and neutrinos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhS77N0tyEA
Ref. https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.02426
Cheers,
David
On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:38 AM, helvi witek hwitek@icc.ub.edu wrote:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve
- update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only animation of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups.
- that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
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Hi Jens, everyone,
i think that is a great idea. I've also met some students who were interested in learning how to use the Einstein Toolkit but were a bit shy to write to the entire list. So partnering "newbies" with a tutor or arrange for a monthly "how-to" hang-out could be a good way to lower that threshold. I'd be happy to help with that, but how about getting students (like Jens) or young postdocs involved? That would be a good learning exercise for both sides.
cheers, Helvi
On 2017-10-18 22:17, Jens Mahlmann wrote:
Dear all,
regarding the outreach and visibility topic I have one suggestion concerning the hurdles of getting started with the Einstein Toolkit. Already two times this year I met people who were rather interested in the ET but did not know how to get started.
The initial hurdle of starting with the ET could be lowered, if one offered for example the contact to a "starting buddy" who agrees to Skype for example 2 times 30 minutes with somebody who wants to get started and provides appropriate slides/scripts/examples/tasks to kick off - also, this might take away the fear to contact the community with further questions. Alternatively, in a lighter and more standardized version of this, one could offer a monthly Hangout giving a "How to get started" presentation and leaving room for Q&A. In any case, I would be on board for any of these points.
For tonight my very best from Valencia
Jens Mahlmann
On 10/18/2017 07:37 PM, David Radice wrote:
Hi Hevli,
let me add, as an example of NS merger simulations done with the ET, our (Princeton/Parma/Frankfurt groups) simulations with the WhiskyTHC code, which includes microphysical nuclear EOS and neutrinos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhS77N0tyEA [2]
Ref. https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.02426 [3]
Cheers,
David
On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:38 AM, helvi witek hwitek@icc.ub.edu wrote:
Dear all,
let me pick up on our discussion on the visibility of the Einstein Toolkit within the LIGO/VIRGO Scientific collaboration, our scientific community in general and the public that we had during the workshop last week.
In the end of the week we are opening our traveling exhibition "Unraveling the dark universe" and, as probably many of you these days, we will have a number of outreach talks about gravitational waves. In this context I was looking for animations produced with the toolkit, in addition to the BBH material that I already had from the SXS collaboration, to give more credit to it.
I noticed a few things that we could improve
- update the gallery on the website. At the moment the only
animation of an event is that by Barry for GW150914. It would be nice to have more of a collection for the other events, and in particular for GW170817. As first step we could collect links to the youtube channels of different groups.
- that brings me to a second suggestion: should we bundle those
animations, e.g., in a ET youtube channel? At the moment, a quick search leads to filmed talks and lectures (which is important, too, of course), but try the same for SXS and you'll get a list of animations by the collaboration. A first step to give more visibility to the toolkit could be to add the logo to the credits.
This is essentially to spark some discussion, and if there is interest, we can follow up on it in one of the next calls.
cheers, Helvi
=========================================== Dr. Helvi Witek Marie-Curie Research Fellow Dep. Fisica Quantica i Astrofisica & ICCUB Universitat de Barcelona ===========================================
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On 19/10/17 14:19, hwitek wrote:
Hi Jens, everyone,
i think that is a great idea. I've also met some students who were interested in learning how to use the Einstein Toolkit but were a bit shy to write to the entire list. So partnering "newbies" with a tutor or arrange for a monthly "how-to" hang-out could be a good way to lower that threshold. I'd be happy to help with that, but how about getting students (like Jens) or young postdocs involved? That would be a good learning exercise for both sides.
Hi!
I also think that this would be a good introductory step, but we've tried hangouts/chats several times in the past (via different platforms, often as regular weekly events), and we never had enough turnout to justify the effort. Maybe we could just activate this option on demand.
Eloisa
Slack is one of the mainstream chat applications these days. We can create a "#newbies" channel there.
Maybe with a better name
-erik
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Eloisa Bentivegna < eloisa.bentivegna@ct.infn.it> wrote:
On 19/10/17 14:19, hwitek wrote:
Hi Jens, everyone,
i think that is a great idea. I've also met some students who were interested in learning how to use the Einstein Toolkit but were a bit shy to write to the entire list. So partnering "newbies" with a tutor or arrange for a monthly "how-to" hang-out could be a good way to lower that threshold. I'd be happy to help with that, but how about getting students (like Jens) or young postdocs involved? That would be a good learning exercise for both sides.
Hi!
I also think that this would be a good introductory step, but we've tried hangouts/chats several times in the past (via different platforms, often as regular weekly events), and we never had enough turnout to justify the effort. Maybe we could just activate this option on demand.
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